I'm not a fan of the Dawg!

[notadogfan]

I just became aware of this site and the andrewluster.net about two days ago and recently signed up. The evidence here has me convinced 100% that Luster deserves a retrial and I'm almost 100% convinced too that he is innocent of the three rape charges.

What brought me here were online searches not on Luster per se but on the Dawg and the Bitch. Rarely do I watch TV nor follow the lives of the rich and famous and didn't know these two mongrels, their families or their reality TV show existed until about three weeks ago give or take a couple of days.

What is bothering me is I've been active in a cause 1 1/2 years and learned about these two Bozos in a forum and at the forum's request, sent out letters in support NOT TO EXTRADITE the mongrel and his litter to Mexico. This cause is pro-border enforcement and anti-illegal alien invasion. I still support this cause but stopped my efforts to contact congress critters and others to try to save Dawg's ass from jail time in Mexico.

Even if Luster is guity in some way, I believe Dawg and Bitch are worse criminals because of their sordid past marriages/divorces and all those litters of children they had, including ones crime ridden and drug addicted child, such as Barbara "Katie" Chapman who died in a car wreck the day before the Mongrels' and Bitches' wedding. Yet, they continued wth their wedding. For shame!!!

Did you all know that The Dawgs' and the Bitches' relationship started out as an affair and Beth (Bitch) aggressively pursued Dog while he was married to wifey No. 4 and the father of small children?

I've been doing some online searches and believe I've narrowed down some dates and circumstances on past marriages, divorces and birth years of children.

If these two and their litters helped to put an innocent man (Luster) behind bars along with their sordid pasts of adultery, divorces, and hurt children through deadbeat parents/broken homes, then I hope they will some day know that what goes around comes around, or that they shall reap what they have sown.

I'm still reading the vast information in this forum on the Luster case. Still, I believe him innocent at this point and do plan on contacting congress members listed in the help section. I firmly believe that Andrew Luster deserves a retrial because he didn't get a fair trial the first time.

Ann

P.S. Dog and Beth suck! By the way, I'm thoroughly disgusted with Beth, her appearance and the flashy way she dresses along with her exposure of her boobs. Dog does too, i.e. dress trashy! They are both attention whores! The first times I watched 1/2 of two of their shows recently, I was just disgusted and definitely NOT amused. This trashy reality show just goes to show how far America has sunk into the pit holes of whatever. Yuck!

[Sherry]

"Even if Luster is guity in some way, I believe Dawg and Bitch are worse criminals because of their sordid past marriages/divorces and all those litters of children they had, including ones crime ridden and drug addicted child, such as Barbara "Katie" Chapman who died in a car wreck the day before the Mongrels' and Bitches' wedding. Yet, they continued wth their wedding. For shame!!!

Did you all know that The Dawgs' and the Bitches' relationship started out as an affair and Beth (Bitch) aggressively pursued Dog while he was married to wifey No. 4 and the father of small children?

I've been doing some online searches and believe I've narrowed down some dates and circumstances on past marriages, divorces and birth years of children."

I'm sure that as time goes on there will be more revelations to come. I know about the marriages and the kind of parents they are. Wasn't she in prison on drug charges years ago? If you read back through some of the older stuff on this site you'll come across several articles on Beth's criminal charges in Colorado. She was charged with kidnapping. In 2003 when Dog's forum was still up, and then again when this board was started, he and Beth showed up and threatened everybody. Eventually, he was caught in so many lies that even the die-hards who came on board as his fans saw through him and realized what phony sh-ttalking lowlife he was. They have a long history of thuggish behavior like that. He continues to repeat the same lies today.They think they can just harass anyone like they do the small time druggies and criminals on their show. They have 2 or 3 suits pending against them right now. Add to that his murder conviction and 18 robberies and the fact that he was an enforcer for the Devil's Desciples. Then there is DaLana Duncan and her claim that Duane did coke with her just a few weeks before the wedding in 2005. She was 16 when he arrested her on a bail warrant. She claims he told the court he was her natural father to get custody, moved her into a trailer in his front yard where she lived w/out heat, and told everybody she was his daughter. Later he had a sexual relationship with her and even told his kids she would be their new stepmother. As usual, he was married at the time. The way it read, it seems that this was going on practically in the same house with his wife. This is really sick if true and he has no right to call anybody a perv.
Oops! almost forgot the domestic violence charge in 1999 in Alaska. (You have to cut/paste the link into your browser)
orca.courts.state.ak.us/names/individ_results.asp?rdRow=WHERE+CaseNumber+%3D+%274NE-99-00003CI%27&SResLink=sel Location%3DANY%26txtYear%3D%26txtLastName%3DChapman%26txtFzcbnstName%3DDuane%26txtRecordsPerPage%3D30%26Submit%3DLast%26C urrentPage%3D1%26txtSkipTo%3D

If Andrew Luster WERE guilty, he certainly didn't do anything to compare with what Chapman is bound to have done, considering that biker gangs make their money from forced prostitution, child porn, snuff films, drug sales, etc. I could admire him for turning his life around and making a name for himself if he hadn't done so at the expense of what I believe he KNEW was an innocent man. I don't believe he fell for the "victim's" story. You gotta give the devil his due-if nothing else, Duane IS streetwise. He's also a major con artist and as the saying goes "you can't kid a kidder". I could put that another, way but that's putting it nicely. Anyway, nobody will ever convince me he didn't see through Tonja. She reeks. Duane would've pegged her right off. But then maybe that's the reason for the alliance. Maybe they are both as corrupt and greedy as the other or maybe they did a few lines of coke together. Who knows.
The bottom line is he has enough money and enough fame now that he could be a major force in exposing the truth of what actually happened. In my opinion he has a duty to do that. To continue to use the tragedy of Andrew Luster and to repeat those lies today to hype his own image is nothing short of evil. He is long over due and I hope Karma pays him a call soon. Maybe the mexican gov't will bring that to pass.

[notadogfan]

Hi Sherry and Admin,

After my first post here I PMed you and Admin.

The last night or two I went on a DAWG fan club site and really got clobbered. Not really though because these are true morons incapable of any rational thoughts. Still, please check out this thread:

www.e-hawaii.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=26

I'm too tired tonight to post much more, but I believe this forum is worth looking into. Check out how I was trashed especially by a pschyo named Bostongrl. She really took on me and posted several new threads claiming this and that, such as I'm excrement and scre**ing both Andrew Luster and Charles Manson. This character has actually received criticisms from other fans at this link. She truly has some major psychological problems and so do some of the others.

Will be in touch again soon.

Ann

P.S. At this other forum I linked to, my user is AnnieMarie.

[Sherry]

Typical of the trash that idolizes Duane. That's why they're not welcome here. There is always one in the bunch. We had our own psycho here called stillovesthedog. She was crazy. Multiple identities, etc. She was relentless. Even the other dog fans hated her. They're all crazy but there's that 1% that just goes completely off the deep end.

[piper]

Hey everyone! You have to understand that you are both at different ends of the scale. They support Dog, you support Luster. I have to admit Im a Dog fan but Im here to understand your points of view. Please dont attack me for that.

[Sherry]

You're welcome here as long as you're respectful and inform yourself on the facts of the case.

[piper]

Ok thanks. But I know that the pro luster and pro dog fans have been at logger heads of late. Dont you think you should except your differences and move on?

[Sherry]

I'm not sure what you mean by "except your differences and move on." Andrew Luster is completely innocent and he still sits in prison. I don't think anybody should just accept that an innocent person has been sentenced to life in a hell they don't deserve. I think what renews the fight between us and them is that Chapman continually fans the flames by repeating the same lies about Andrew Luster. He KNOWS the man is innocent. What kind of human being would do that to another? It's bad enough that he put him in prison but to continue to try to keep him there is something else.
This is a man's life we're talking about. Not to mention the fact that our justice system has degenerated to this level. The media has shredded the bill of rights and due process. I feel that for anyone to even comment on this situation they have an obligation to at least know what they're talking about. Dog's fans have continually refused to do that. Soundbytes or the media disinformation based on admitted perjury and the proven lies of Dog Chapman are not evidence. I realize that primary evidence and documentation is hard to come by in this case but if you read the news archive you should be able to discern objective fact from prosecution spin and quotes from the "victims". When the article goes on to say that Tonjia lied about every element of this case,a dmitted it in court on the record, and then that she was allowed to participate in a civil case and win millions based on those same proven lies, the simplest reader should be able to figure out there's no integrity in that. Anyone not willing to inform themself on the FACTS of the AL case has no right to comment and they don't belong on this forum. We don't owe them anything and only a fool argues with a fool. Why waste our time? They come here and say such inspired and thoughtful things as "Andrew Luster is a dirty stinking rapist" "Dog is a hero for taking a rapist off the street", and calling us "luster fans". All of these statements are completely ignorant and contradicted by the facts. That's not a meaningful contribution to this issue or this board. The rule here is that you must be respectful and you must at least read the news archive and be able to make a valid meaningul comment that shows some measure of insight. Really though, all that said, the only reason you even see Chapman's name here is that it gets the hits. He used AL to become famous and get his face on tv. It's ironic that we turn the tables and use it to bring attention to the case. Face it, their names and images are completely intertwined and inseparable in the public eye. We can exploit that ill-gotten fame the same way he exploited AL. Soooo as irritating as it is, I'm afraid we have little choice but to put up with them for now.

[notadogfan]

Sherry,

I agree with everything you’ve said to Piper here. I’ve recently been on a dog fan forum and they don’t want to listen to common sense either or read links I provide. They just don’t seem to be interested in whether or nor an innocent man was imprisoned. They also don’t seem to care about the details of Dog’s and Beth’s sordid past lives.

It’s as if, if Dog or Beth committed the crimes/past criminal and adulterous acts (AND THEY DID), then we should all forgive and forget; yet if it’s Luster, then he is a “convicted rapist,” no compassion or forgiveness should be bestowed, and let him serve his 100+ years in jail. These people who are devoted to Dawg and Litter are mostly hopeless as well as clueless.

I’m surprised at their level of LACK OF compassion. If they truly believe that we should all overlook the skeletons in other’s closets and not pass judgment because God is the only authority in this, they should not also pass judgment on Luster and he should walk out of jail free.

I have more comments but this is it for me tonight.

Ann
Notadogfan

[piper]

No what I meant was, the 'Dog Fans' obviously dont want to listen to what you want to tell them so why go to Dog fan sites and argue with them about it. You are welcome on my Dog fan site by all means. What I meant by moving on is.. the Dog Fans and the the people who believe that Andrew Luster is innocent should try to except that they have different views and opinions and try to get along. All the sites that I have been on, when these two groups come together that seems to happen is arguments. If you would like to try and talk to Dog Fans but without the arguments you are welcome to my forum www.dogfansite.proboards84.com
I hope to see you there.

[notadogfan]

Piper,

Thank you for the link and welcome to your forum. I may check it out soon. Since learning about Dog and litter and Andrew Luster, I'm reading all I can online and checking out different forums. I'm new with these issues and am treading water with Dog fans.

I have to say that after reading extensively here about Andrew Luster's case and trial, I believe he is innocent. And, I agree with what Sherry has said.

Treading water with Dog fans I thought some may review detailed information and see Dog and Beth for what they really are. I may have been mistaken although I've met some people on another forum who are fans of Dog, Leland, Duane Jr. etc. but cannot stand Beth.

She is my least favorite out of all of them. I'll explain more later although I explained some on a Dog fan site about Beth's aggressive pursuit of Dog while he was married to two women and had small children by at least one of them.

I'm a multi-issue gal. One issue I'm concerned about is no-fault divorce reform and through personal experience I have learned a great deal from talking with men who have also suffered through divorce (from wives who cheated on and left them) and have read extensively about men's and father's rights online, not only with divorce, but also against false accusations of domestic violence, sexual harassment and child abuse. The issue of false accusations of rape pop up here and there too. This and situations in the world have turned me strongly against radical/gender feminists, not that I was a fan of them to begin with.

Sherry, I have a lot going on in my personal life right now that I need to concentrate on but I hope I can become more active on this forum as well as spreading the word about the Andrew Luster forum to various individuals and groups dealing with men's issues and rights. There is also a group w/forum called People Before Lawyers that may be interested in this matter although I never became actively involved with them. I'm also thinking of going on divorce reform forums and those dealing with adultery to spread the word about Dog's and Beth's sordid past lives. There are other forums where not all the participants are fans of Dog and I can participate there too and mention Luster and I believe him innocent. Oh, and I recently found a website dealing with false accusations of rape and case histories. I will check into that soon.

[Sherry]

Piper, you need to change your colors. Just my opinion. It's really hard on the eyes and hard to read. You're probably going to have a hard time getting a lot of members just because there are so many dog fan boards out there right now. Good luck though.

[notadogfan]

Piper,

Earlier today I saw that both you and Sammie are listed as having a birthday today. Happy Birthday to both of you! Is it a coincidence that Beth Chapman's birthday also falls on Oct. 29 but in a much earlier year?

I wish you all happy birthdays! Enjoy!!!

Ann

[piper]

If I was Beth you would know it by now. You all know what she's like when she gets angry. Yeah, that other member 'sammie' was me but I got banned. I realised that I was being dumb for acting that way. And Im interested in why you think that Luster is innocent. I promise you that Im not here to cause trouble this time.

Oh, and I only discovered that Beths birthday was the same day as mine a few days before my birthday. I can promise you that Im not Beth (if thats what you are thinking) Im just someone who is a fan and has the same birthday, only 20 years later.

[Sherry]

piper said:

If I was Beth you would know it by now. You all know what she's like when she gets angry. Yeah, that other member 'sammie' was me but I got banned. I realised that I was being dumb for acting that way. And Im interested in why you think that Luster is innocent. I promise you that Im not here to cause trouble this time.

Oh, and I only discovered that Beths birthday was the same day as mine a few days before my birthday. I can promise you that Im not Beth (if thats what you are thinking) Im just someone who is a fan and has the same birthday, only 20 years later.

Ok, welcome to the board.