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Post by Stupid on Jul 16, 2003 20:24:03 GMT -5
I don't feel like reading that whole thing again.. I thought it said he was "a hells angel" I don't remember it saying anything about DD's or him being the prez
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Post by stillLOVEthedog on Jul 16, 2003 20:25:30 GMT -5
nah, its all on there... I really dont think which gang matters, he left the bad road and changed his life...
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Post by Stupid on Jul 16, 2003 20:40:06 GMT -5
ok, i see the part about him being a member of DD's but I DON'T see where he was the prez. Can someone paste it here? thanks.
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Post by stillLOVEthedog on Jul 17, 2003 19:08:33 GMT -5
what has happened tec, any more new charges with the new women steppinig up?
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Post by stagetec on Jul 17, 2003 19:24:19 GMT -5
sltd no news right now only time will tell.
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Post by Jessie on Jul 19, 2003 22:22:43 GMT -5
Just a memo or FYI: remember GHB can erase the users memory of anything that happens under the influence. There was a case of date rape using GHB some 10 years ago here, with the guy video taping just like Luster. He got a very long sentence. So if someone has been partying this way for years, there are probably hundreds of victims.
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 19, 2003 22:30:48 GMT -5
Jessie, that doesn't apply in this case. At least not with Tonjia or Carrie.
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Post by Jessie on Jul 19, 2003 22:45:41 GMT -5
I won't pretend to be the expert here, but they were led by the cops into a room where they had to identify themselves on tape. Kinda like being at the morgue, isn't it?
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 19, 2003 22:51:53 GMT -5
Why is that? Kinda like an ordinary day for those two, Tonjia especially. You think she never watched them with Drew afterward
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Post by Jessie on Jul 19, 2003 23:07:39 GMT -5
Tonjia was very credible, very compelling, a sweetheart. I can see why he really liked her. I am sorry he couldn't find a relationship that was mutual, healthy. I think it's about losing his Dad as a kid. Didn't work through the pain of that. I do have compassion for this guy, really. But it all starts with owning-up. That's how people get free, literally and figuratively.
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Post by Stupid on Jul 20, 2003 0:47:15 GMT -5
Excellent thoughts Jessie. Stick around, we need some more people like you here.
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Post by tator on Jul 20, 2003 0:52:13 GMT -5
Was or Sounded. Do you know her?
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Post by Stupid on Jul 20, 2003 0:54:23 GMT -5
Was or Sounded. Do you know her? not sure what you mean by was or sounded? No, I don't know her, I thouht it was a guy until you just said that.
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Post by tator on Jul 20, 2003 0:59:22 GMT -5
That was for Jessie.
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 20, 2003 10:19:06 GMT -5
Jessie, She was a good con. If you do have actual knowledge of the case, which you haven't proven thus far, then you would know she was the one proven to have lied in court. What else did she lie about? Tonjia and Chapman are alyned or colluding for a reason, IMO. Both liars. At least Tonjia has her teeth. Tonjia “Victim/Witness” # 2-Tonya, the most visible of the 3, and the only one to appear in the A & E report-went home with him alone in the wee hours of the morning after being introduced to him at the bar a few hours earlier. She admitted to willingly taking GHB with him at his house that very night. This is the night the alleged crime took place. The tape of this particular incident was repeatedly said to show Andrew Luster “brutally violating her in a ferocious way as she snored audibly”. NO BLOOD, NO PAIN, not even soreness the next day? She began a relationship with him and moved into his house 2 weeks later. This wasn’t just a sexual arrangement. They were “in love”. She claims to have only become aware that she was “raped” when she saw the media reports of Cara’s charge. According to her version, (several of which she’s told) she was wearing the same clothes in the video the cops showed her -no proof offered or required that that was what she was wearing that night, or that this wasn’t one of the numerous consensual GHB sex sessions-simply her word again. In the several months she lived with Mr. Luster, she admitted to willingly taking GHB with him on a regular basis, allowing him to tape their sexual activities throughout that time, and can be seen acknowledging the camera on one of the tapes. She lied on the stand regarding her consent to being taped having sex with him. That is a matter of PUBLIC RECORD. The judge suppressed the tape where she acknowledges the camera, refused to admit it into evidence, and wouldn’t allow the jury to view it or to be told of its’ existence. The prosecutor admitted to the same judge that she had in fact committed perjury when she denied allowing him to tape the encounters. No reprimand. No perjury charge. Nothing. This was the incident which finally convinced Luster he had no hope of a fair trial and caused him to jump bond and flee. The Judge refused to allow the defense to cross examine her on this for another two weeks. The breakup of the relationship had been especially rancorous and bitter. She claimed in the A&E report that she became upset when seeing her picture added to the pictures of his former girlfriends and that it gave her “the creeps”. He had to sue to recover money for a root canal. Of course, there was no mention of this or her lies in the A&E story. She said he’d told her he was worth 80 million. After the breakup, she married his next door neighbor where she has continued to live to the present. This is the same “victim” who was sooo “traumatized”. IMO, she was either well coached or a consummate actress, judging from all the feigned emotion over something she wasn’t even aware of for 4 years according to her testimony, which amounted to nothing more than what she had done consciously on all those occasions. Then again, maybe it’s not that difficult with the right motivation $$$$? Reading between the lines of what she said last night, and knowing about the bitterness and hostility of the break up, in my opinion, this one smacks of the classic woman scorned. I also wonder if there wasn't some type of stalking behavior on her part considering that she moved next door to him. Coincidence? I detected jealousy in what she said about the girlfriend pics, and I suspect she was disappointed that she wasn’t “the one”. She went to police "thinking she could help with the investigation" after hearing of Carrie's charges. Luster was a good catch and she wanted to cash in one way or the other. It also provided the opportunity for revenge. Just speculating.
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