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Post by TheTruth on Jul 7, 2003 18:57:46 GMT -5
Did anybody see the idiot in court today making such a fool of himself the bailiff had to make him take his seat?  It's not leather jacket weather in Ventura today. This guy is such a clown. He has absolutely NO legal standing to get that money. It's not even the judge's call. The law says a felon is not allowed to "arrest" anyone, certified by some bail enforcement licensing agency or not. He isn't licensed, but the point is he could never get licensed. He would have everyone think he just doesn't like their rules, but the fact is they would never accept him because he is a felon and is therefore breaking the law, not only by kidnapping someone, but impersonating a law officer or someone with a badge. Where did he get that thing, the dime store? lol Not only that, the money is not up for grabs. The law says it goes back to the person who put it up within 180 days. That's the LAW! The judge is bound by the law. Why the court even agreed to hear the idiots is a mystery to anyone familiar with CA. law. For one thing, the "victims" don't even have a judgement in the civil case. I feel so sorry for Andrew Luster, his family and children. These people are all just a bunch of vultures trying to pick their bones, but they're not dead yet and I predict the carrion will get nothing. And just what in HELL could he spend $300,000 on anyway? It's Mexico! He's asking for an investigation, and he's gonna get one allright. He better crawl back under his rock NOW. He is inviting scrutiny he can't afford. He is also a fugitive and had better not be doing any more public appearances or he just might fnd himself being cuffed and hauled back to Mexico by someone who IS a LEGAL bounty hunter. |
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Post by DOGHUNTER on Jul 7, 2003 20:13:35 GMT -5
truth i'm here.
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 7, 2003 22:46:37 GMT -5
Welcome. Could use some backup.
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Post by LUSTER on Jul 8, 2003 0:43:09 GMT -5
Why does this clown (Chapman) think he's entitled to one g0dd**n cent of the bail money??? AL put up his own bail (Ca$h) and therefore, his family should be the ones to receive it. He was returned to California within 180 days, so it's his loot, like it or not. Personally, I LIKE IT! It's his! Hopefully, he can bribe a judge into giving him a new trial with it. Those gold-digging women deserve nothing but a slap on the a$$ for a fun night!
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 9, 2003 8:52:53 GMT -5
Snipped From The Other Site:
By: California Attorney
If he was caught after 180 days there would be no argument or hearings on this issue. The County of Ventura could keep the million. Period. What this dog idiot did, instead of waiting for the 180 days to run out in a couple of days was to cost Ventura Court time, endless appeals from all parties wanting part of the money. The State of California is now going to have to fight it out in the State Court of Appeal and them the Ca Supreme Court and it may spill over to the Federal Courts. All of these appeals will cost the taxpayers. I dont think you could have made a bigger mess by doing this if you planned to screw up everything.
By: Relentless One
...and to continue that inevitable process, CA Attorney, once it reaches the US Supreme Court level those who disagree with the 1873 Court decision that allows for Bounty Hunting/Bail Enforcement just may have their opportunity to re-open that discussion. This would be the beginning of the end for this vital profession, as new issues would be argued before the Court. Either a reversal of the original decision or new laws outlawing the pratice could be the result. All this for greed and glory when it could have and should have been done correctly and within the laws of both countries. Chapman could have done the job without all the fanfare and functioned as an agent or assistant for some one who could have been doing the job legally. But, as we all know, it didn't happen that way; and, as a result, may see the death of a very important quasi law enforcement service to our communities. I do hope and pray this is NOT the outcome...
By: Bud
I'm no attorney but the 1873 court deal should have nothing to do with this. Luster was deported to the U.S. with a FBI agent. Bounty is probally the key to this story. Luster was self bonded so Dog was not working as a Bounty Hunter. Fame was what he was really looking for now he doesn't want to pay the price for it. The price for his fame will be paid for by us the taxpayers not him. California would like to deport Dog to Mexico.
By: Relentless One
Bud: You're right in that it is not a bail bond issue as it pertains to bail bond services. I was simply pointing out the fiasco that greed and glory seeking could get this industry in to. Per CA laws, Chapman is not entitled to any money as CA Atty had stated. He was acting independently and in an unlawful manner both in and for CA as well as Mexico. He rolled the dice and crapped out. If the judge does opt to compensate Chapman any amt or even reimburse him, he will, himself, be in violation of CA law. But, then, we all know that judges in CA seem to do things their own way without regard for the laws and rules that they agreed and swore to uphold and enforce--right Truth?And The Truth: I don't know how to forward my previous post to the "other site". I'm having a tough time getting in myself, so feel free to use my input as you see fit...
By:Relentless One
Hey, Bud: One other thing concerns me regarding this mess. In the event, God forbid, the T v T Court ruling is somehow revisited, modified, or through legislation completely overthrown, are you Bail Bondsmen going to need to rely on local, regional, state, and federal law enforcement personnel to do your tracking, locating, and arresting? Are you going to be able to trust in their limited efforts? They are so overwelmed right now with new law breakers, where are they going to find the time and manpower to pull that off? Talk about flooding the streets of America with criminals. Boy, Howdy, watch out. Bail Bonding could become a thing of the past without effective, law abiding, fugitive recovery agents. All this for the glory of a legend in his own mind CONVICT...
By Bud:I hope not. We work with our local area departments well but, they have me help them often. I'm in a small town so we share information better than in the big counties. I also speak spanish so this story has been funny to me. I have good contacts in Mexico which makes it worse. I hope that this case will open the border so we can go south and work.Fear not when I go it will not be with a television crew. The end of this will not help us at all the mexican side will think we are idiots that are out of control. In this deal you shoudn't start until you have your paperwork together. Bart Simpson could have done this arrest just as well if not better. He already has fame he would have been there for the money.
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 16, 2003 21:22:42 GMT -5
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Post by stillLOVEthedog on Jul 16, 2003 22:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 16, 2003 22:10:04 GMT -5
Like I said, you can't argue the facts of THIS case. You have to try to distract and act as if Luster is somehow implicated by the acts of someone else. He's not. "Victims" are not generic. They are all different people. Different circumstances. No comparison. Try again, SISTER.  LOL. I like that, Sherry. ;D |
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Post by stillLOVEthedog on Jul 16, 2003 22:16:26 GMT -5
oh sorry Truth, but I thought compairing was ok, because you do it...and besides, its also a sexual preditor...same bracket of offenders.
Any thoughts to if she liked it? or if she was asking for it? or if there is molesting and then there is MOLESTING.
You know, like, there is rape and then there is RAPE.
Hmmm...
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