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Post by DOGHUNTER on Jul 21, 2003 16:18:13 GMT -5
JESSIE. I'M NOT CONDONING LUSTER FOR NOTHING. HIS SITUATION TO ME IS MUTE. JUST A NUMBER. I HAVE PICKED UP GUYS THAT MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A BOY SCOUT. THEY TOO ARE JUST NUMBERS. AS FOR DOG. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING VERY HARD TO REFORM THIS INDUSTRY FRO YEARS DOGS AND HIS PREDISESOURS HAVE MADE THINGS BAD FOR US. LIKE GETTING PAID. FOR OUR ENDEVOURS. AT ONE TIME A BONDSMAN COULD HIRE DOGLIKE BOUNTY HUNTERS AND PAY THEM BEANS. YOU GET YOU YOU GET. $$. AND NOW WITH REFORM WE GET PAID FOR OUR HARD WORK AND LAW ENFORCEMNT LOOKS AT US IN A DIFERENT LIGHT. THEY ARE MORE PRONE TO WORK WITH US THAN AGAIST US. WE CATCH 98% OF OUR CASES THE 2% ARE COST PROHIBITIVE. COST MORE TO CATCH THAN THE BOND AM0UNT. I'M PROUD OF WHO I AM AND WHAT I DO. AND YES I WAS ON THAT SHOW. I'M THE ONE WHO WOULD WORK WITH YOU OR AGAIST YOU. SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING. DOG IS A FELON AND A SORE TO OUR INDUSTRY. HIS ACTIONS IF CONDONED WOULD ALOOW FELONS TO KICK IN DOORS OF PRIVITE HOMES AND EXTOT MONIES FROM OUR COURTS. A WAVE WE DO NOT WANT. I'M SURE YOUR GOOD AT YOUR PROFESSION WOULD YOU WANT A FELON TAKEN YOU PLACE. ? WHAT WOULD YOU DO. ? ;D P.S. I DO GET MAD AND I HAVE A TASTE FOR TANGLE / TOE TO TOE ANY TIME WITH ANY ONE.
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Post by Jessie on Jul 21, 2003 17:46:24 GMT -5
I realize you think Dog is threatening to your profession. But what exactly is the threat? Is it that he was a felon mean he will always be one? Does he hunt in ways that are lawless and threatening to the general public? It seems that it's all about image. Dog's image is not what the bail enforcers want. They want a real low profile so no one gets their dander up and on their case. Understood. If this thing in Mexico is Dog's big undoing, then I say what a shame on them. To hang him out to dry for doing what as a U.S. citizen should be his DUTY, to apprehend a fugitive of justice. The man has years of experience and was working as a free agent and not for a bondsman. He isn't some dumb blank saying 'golly, that looks a lot like Luster at that taco stand"....I feel for you guys, I just knew the money wasn't true compensation for the work you do. As long as we can discuss & not insult one another, I am sure I have a lot to learn too. But I go on instinct & that is what's telling me that it's all unfair. I am sure Dog helped prevent more victims, which no one seems to care about.
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Post by Stupid on Jul 21, 2003 18:09:56 GMT -5
careful sherry, your true colors are showing!
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Post by Jessie on Jul 21, 2003 19:18:46 GMT -5
Hi Stupid, someone should tell me I'm the only one sweatin' it. Not even Dog cares this much.
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 21, 2003 19:21:56 GMT -5
I think I can safely say that for all the bail agents I know, it is much more than that. If it wasn't before, it is after all the lies and b.s. in this case. He has shown himself to be sleaze, legal and certified or not. I don't think these guys repect anything about his lifestyle or his lies.
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Post by Jessie on Jul 21, 2003 19:24:24 GMT -5
To DOGHUNTER I remember you saying that:"I will work with you (easy way) or against you"(hard way) but I draw a blank as to name & face (short term memory loss). But good for you..good show!
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Post by Jessie on Jul 21, 2003 19:31:32 GMT -5
Not good. We should all go court for a "lifestyle" trial. Maybe Martha Stewart could serve as Judge.Hmmmmmm
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Post by Yak on Jul 21, 2003 20:16:04 GMT -5
Hey doghunter,,.......speak for yourself!!! If you think for a minute that anybody involved in the recovery business is as purified as you.........think again. If we had to play by the rules 100%, it would be very hard to make a living.....YOU INCLUDED!!! By the way....why has'nt the $1.00 bail ever been mentioned in this forum?? or your really not familiar with them?? Maybe when you wash the powder off your face from being on "television".....you can wash the foot you put in your mouth.....so your ready to really go" toe to toe" with........{i can only wonder who?}. Beth, your an angel......thanks & stand tall.....everyones watching.
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Post by TheTruth on Jul 21, 2003 20:23:25 GMT -5
WTF? His lifestyle includes lies and fabricating stories of non-existant evidence. He is a convicted first degree murderer with 18 violent felonies, right? He can't even lie convincingly. Five bodyguards! roflmao!
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Post by DOGHUNTER on Jul 21, 2003 21:54:39 GMT -5
JESSIE/ TO YOUR ? IF THE COURT CONDONES DOG IT WOULD BE SAYING IT'S O.K. TO BE A FELON AND PERSUE LOW PROFILE CRIMINALS INTO / BREAK DOWN. ECT.. DOORS AND HOLD THEM HOSTIGE / RAMSON, EXTORTION FOR THE COURTS. THEY WOULD TAKE AWAY OUR PERCENTAGE OF PAY RIGHT NOW SOME AGENTS ARE GETTING PAID 10% BEFORE. 2% IF THEY WERE LUCKY. SOME OF US PROS MAKE 20% . WE TRAIN HARD AND PAY OUR DUES. IS IT FAIR. SAFE. OR SAINE TO SUPPORT LAWLESSNESS. AND ILLEGAL ACTIONS, ANSWER. I HOPE YOU HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING. REFORM IS IMPORTANT. LOOK AT AZ. 1997. WE COULD POTENTIALY HAVE A NEW CASE. ;D
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Post by RELENTLESSONE on Jul 22, 2003 1:20:42 GMT -5
Hey, Jessie: You're wrong!!! Duane (NOT that other reference that makes him God in reverse--the antiChrist his words) is sweatin it!!! He knows he did wrong a long time back and just recently. He has NOT changed or been rehabilitated. His continued lawless behavior and disregard for society's standards proves this. He is simply in it for himself in order to continue to be a legend in his own mind. What he has done for Bail Enforcement and the Bail Bond industry is beyond frightening. His selfish and inconsiderate behavior can and should no longer be tollerated. I sincerelly hope for his sake that his Hollywood crap shoot pans out for him, because he has pretty much burned every bridge in this industry. Yes, he still has and (beyond me) always will have worshipers such as yourself. He has jeopardized the future of this extremely vital community service through his self-serving antics. He has caused more fallout than any thousand people should be responsible for. As I have stated before, you will be able to thank Duane for the influx of criminals and crimes in YOUR neighborhood if this industry suffers a major setback. All it would takea would be a couple of hotdog attys to cause this issue to be revisited at the US Supreme Court level or via state by state legislation, eventually going nationwide. It seems that we just barely finish cleaning up after one major SNAFU (Phoenix, AZ '97) and we're dealt another major (this one INTERNATIONAL) cluster f*=# from one glory seeking monumental pain in the---well, you figure it out. So, you see, he has caused some significant problems, and in the process has become an international fugitive from justice. And--don't kid yourself--if the Mexican officials want him back to answer to his illegal actions, they WILL get him. There, Jessie, I believe I have addressed your issues of 1) threat to the industry; 2) image (bad as it is); 3) hanging himself out to dry was self imposed and he isn't "one of us" (his and Beth's recorded comments); 4) more victims may be created by his actions, not fewer; 5) his "free agent" status--he was unlawfully operating for a court out of CA without prior arrangements or any agreements and we all know that a felon CONVICT shall not perform these services in and for the State of CA. Hey, Stupid: What's up with the criticism and ridicule regarding proper spelling? Some people just spell better that others and some people need a little asst... Hey, YAK: If you are in the business and do not at least make every attempt to be as legal and lawful as you possibly can, you better change careers while you still have your freedom. Otherwise you WILL be following in your Duane's footie steps right in to jail. He's been there before. He's been there just recently. He will probably be there again. Doesn't sound like a changed man to me. Resembles more of a career CONVICT...
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Post by Stupid on Jul 22, 2003 8:07:47 GMT -5
anon, sorry. My mistake...
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Post by Yak on Jul 22, 2003 10:54:17 GMT -5
Anon..we ARE in the business & DO make every attempt to be as legal & lawfull as we possibly can,....but there are times when the rules have to be bent backwards to get the job done. { NO EXCEPTIONS }. We also know that "society's standards" vary in different states as do the "laws" & "rights" of citizens, convicts, & bounty hunters. As far as jeopardizing the future of of this vital community service....."what state are you referring to?". Duane Chapman may have crossed the line, but he accomplished something that others could'nt . Hate him or not.....he caught the predator before anymore harm was done, and sure looks like it WAS intended. Most of all, our hats off to Stupid, who is more truthfull & down to earth than most, for keeping this board in line. Thanks for being open minded enough to endure & tolerate the pro's & cons of this forum.
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Post by Stupid on Jul 22, 2003 15:49:07 GMT -5
thanks Yak, I guess you weren't here yesterday am? lol, just kidding.
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Post by RELENTLESSONE on Jul 22, 2003 16:19:54 GMT -5
Hey Yak: ATTENTION EVERYONE!!! We got us another new commer Duane lover. You need to review your homework. Go back and review this entire board. Learn! LEARN!! LEARN!!!Duane broke the law. He is a CONVICT who has chosen to NOT change his unlawful ways. He continues to attempt to defraud a court in CA as we speak. He IS A FUGITIVE from justice right now. You go ahead and support him; heck, join him for all I care. You will be soon enough. Through his unlawful activities he is slowly but surely destroying the Bail Enforcement, Fugitive Recovery profession as we know it. One add'l thing: why don't you tell your bail bond accounts of your lawless behavior. Ther will drop you like last weeks garbage. You really don't think they want all the liability and negative publicity that accompanies an attitude like yours, do you? Man, I respect the business I represent and don't want to see it go away...so if you are going to follow in Duane's footie steps please get to steppin, as there is NO PLACE in this business for law breakers, CONVICTS and other social deviants...
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